Robert Estrin - piano expert

Should You Use Pedal in Bach?

An answer to a very common question

In this video, Robert tells you if you should use the pedal to play Bach. The answer is more interesting than you may think.

Released on April 26, 2023

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Video Transcription

Hi, and welcome to LivingPianos.com. Robert Estrin here with a viewer question that I want your response to, which is, is pedal necessary in playing Bach? Most of you probably know the piano wasn't invented during Bach's lifetime.

However, the very earliest incarnation of what was ostensibly a piano, Bach did try, but he never wrote any music specifically for the piano. In fact, his favorite keyboard instrument was the clavichord because of how expressively it could play. In fact, because there wasn't an escapement, you could actually impart vibrato on notes after you played them. Of course, the piano, with escapement, hammers escaping the strings allowed for expression, a wide range of dynamics.

But the pedal, the sustained pedal was certainly not a thing at all. So what I'm going to do for you today is a really interesting experiment, and I'm counting on you to help me with this. I'm going to play the first section of the Bach 5th French Suite, the first movement, which has a repeat. The first time I'm going to play it with no pedal at all. Then I'm going to play it with lots of pedal, but there are going to be little tiny bursts of pedal just to enhance the tone. And the question is, number one, can you hear the difference? And number two, do you have a preference one or the other? Leave them in the comments here at LivingPianos .com and on YouTube. So here we go, the beginning of Bach 5th French Suite.

I'm going to play it with no pedal. I'm going to play it with no pedal. I'm going to play it with no pedal.

So, there are two examples of the same exact section. You probably wonder what I was doing with my foot there, fluttering up and down so quickly.

Well, the fact of the matter is in this piece, as in so much Bach, there's so much counterpoint going on that it's really difficult to really pedal. If you're playing Chopin, for example, there is obviously so much you can do with pedaling, and in fact you need to. If I were to play, for example, a little brief excerpt of the Chopin G minor blob without pedal, it would sound pretty thin.

Now with a pedal.

So, you can hear in the Chopin, it's absolutely essential to hold out notes for harmonies to blend together.

But the music of Bach wasn't written with the sustain or damper pedal in mind. So, it works just fine without the pedal. Why those little flutters of pedal? Because to use any kind of substantial pedal like you heard in the Chopin where the pedal stays down for any length of time would blur all the counterpoint together, and that's not what you want. So, all I was doing was enhancing longer notes to make them sustain longer, because as you know when you play a note on the piano, it's always dying away. We're fighting that as pianists, trying to create a singing sustained line for the illusion of continuity like in the human voice or the bow of a violin.

So, the pedal helps to enrich the sound of keynotes so that you get a sense of line and more sustain to the tone. I'm really interested in your comments on this one. Which one you liked better, and if you can hear a difference at all, let me know. Once again, I'm Robert Estrin. This is livingpianos .com. Your online piano resource. Thanks so much for joining me.
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Comments, Questions, Requests:

Tosh * VSM MEMBER * on June 22, 2023 @6:40 pm PST
I preferred the Bach with your pedalling...to me it sounded more
lyrical. This may be a maverick viewpoint...but so be it.
Tom Moylan * VSM MEMBER * on April 26, 2023 @2:36 pm PST
Another great example. Thanks! I agree that no pedal is needed for Bach music. Sounds better with no pedal.
Ron W on April 26, 2023 @8:42 am PST
Without pedal. Are there other composers during Bach's time who also wrote without the sustained pedal?
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Robert - host, on April 27, 2023 @8:01 am PST
Composers of the Baroque era, including Bach, didn't compose music for the piano. Other keyboard instruments of the time, such as the harpsichord ,didn't have sustain pedals. Even the earliest instruments that could be called a piano didn't have sustain pedals either.
Deborah Summers * VSM MEMBER * on April 26, 2023 @6:22 am PST
I honestly could not hear much difference. Since it wasn't Bach's intention to use a sustain pedal, why do it? On the other hand, we won't know if Bach would have used it if he could have. Hmmmm . . .
Fulvia %2528SnowLeopard%2529 * VSM MEMBER * on April 26, 2023 @5:18 am PST
You are such a master with the pedal that I hardly noticed the difference with the piece of Bach. Maybe I would chose the one without the pedal.
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Robert - host, on April 26, 2023 @8:43 am PST
Thank you for that. The secret to pedaling is to enhance the music so you don't notice the pedaling!
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